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= Introduction  =
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[[Image:Screen-Ceph-Status.png|thumb]] Ceph is a distributed object store and file system designed to provide excellent performance, reliability and scalability - See more at: http://ceph.com.
== Recommended hardware ==
Take a look at our Proxmox VE Ceph Benchmark 2018/02 for possible hardware decisions.
https://www.proxmox.com/en/downloads/item/proxmox-ve-ceph-benchmark


Proxmox VE supports Ceph’s RADOS Block Device to be used for VM disks. The Ceph storage services are usually hosted on external, dedicated storage nodes. Such storage clusters can sum up to several hundreds of nodes, providing petabytes of storage capacity.
== Further readings about Ceph ==


For smaller deployments, it is also possible to run Ceph services directly on your Proxmox VE nodes. Recent hardware has plenty of CPU power and RAM, so running storage services and VMs on same node is possible.  
Ceph comes with plenty of documentation [https://docs.ceph.com/ here]. Even better, the dissertation from the creator of Ceph - Sage A. Weil - is also [http://unixadmin.free.fr/wp-content/uploads/weil-thesis.pdf available]. By reading that thesis you can get an in-depth insight how Ceph works.  


This articles describes how to setup and run Ceph storage services directly on Proxmox VE nodes.  
* https://ceph.com/


'''Note:'''
* https://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2014/10/10/ceph-how-to-test-if-your-ssd-is-suitable-as-a-journal-device/, Journal SSD Recommendations


Ceph Storage integration (CLI and GUI) is introduced in Proxmox VE 3.2 as technology preview.
== Video Tutorials ==
*[https://www.proxmox.com/en/training/video-tutorials/item/install-ceph-server-on-proxmox-ve Install Ceph Server on Proxmox VE]


= Advantages  =
===Proxmox YouTube channel===
You can subscribe to our [http://www.youtube.com/ProxmoxVE Proxmox VE Channel] on YouTube to get updates about new videos.


*Easy setup and management with CLI and GUI support on Proxmox VE
== Ceph Misc ==
*Thin provisioning
*Snapshots support
*Self healing
*No single point of failure
*Scalable to the exabyte level
*Setup pools with different performance and redundancy characteristics
*Data is replicated, making it fault tolerant
*Runs on economical commodity hardware
*No need for hardware RAID controllers
*Easy management
*Open source


= Recommended hardware  =
=== Upgrading existing Ceph Server ===


You need at least three identical servers for the redundant setup. Here is the specifications of one of our test lab clusters with Proxmox VE and Ceph (three nodes):
* From Hammer to Jewel: See [[Ceph Hammer to Jewel]]


*Dual Xeon E5-2620v2, 32 GB RAM, Intel S2600CP mainboard, Intel RMM, Chenbro 2U chassis with eight 3.5” hot-swap drive bays, 2 fixed 2.5" SSD bays
* From Jewel to Luminous: See [[Ceph Jewel to Luminous]]
*10 GBit network for Ceph traffic (one Intel X540-T2 in each server, one 10Gb switch - Netgear XS712T)
*Single enterprise class SSD for the Proxmox VE installation (because we run Ceph monitors there and quite a lot of logs), we use one Intel DC S3500 80 GB per host.
*Single, fast and reliable enterprise class SSD for Ceph Journal. Just for this test lab cluster, we used instead some Samsung SSD 840 PRO with 240 GB
*SATA disk for storing the data (OSDs), use at least 4 disks/OSDs per server, more OSD disks are faster. We use four Seagate Constellation ES.3 SATA 6Gb (4TB model) per server.


N.B. enterprise class SSD means also that they have "power loss data protection", like intel DC S3500 or DC S3700 have
=== restore lxc from zfs to ceph ===
if lxc is on zfs with compression  the actual disk usage can be far greater then expected.  
see https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/lxc-restore-fail-to-ceph.32419/#post-161287
One way to know actual disk usage:
:  restore backup to a ext4 directory and run du -sh ,  then do restore manually specifying target disk size.
=== scsi setting ===
make sure that you use  virtio-scsi controller (not LSI), see VM options. I remember some panic when using LSI recently but I did not debug it further as modern OS should use virtio-scsi anyways. https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/restarted-a-node-some-kvms-on-other-nodes-panic.32806


This setup delivers 48 TB storage. By using the redundancy of 3, you can store up to 16 TB (100%). But to be prepared for failed disks and hosts, you should never fill up your storage with 100&nbsp;%.
[[Category:HOWTO]] [[Category:Installation]]
 
By adding more disks, the storage can be expanded up to 96 TB just by plugging in additional disks into the free drive bays. Of course, you can add more servers too as soon as your business is growing.
 
If you do not want to run virtual machines and Ceph on the same host, you can just add more Proxmox VE nodes and use these for running the guests and the others just for the storage.
 
= Installation of Proxmox VE  =
 
Before you start with Ceph, you need a working Proxmox VE cluster with 3 nodes (or more). We install Proxmox VE on a fast and reliable enterprise class SSD, so we can use all bays for OSD data. Just follow the well known instructions on [[Installation]] and [[Proxmox VE 2.0 Cluster]].
 
'''Note:'''
 
Use ext4 if you install on SSD (at the boot prompt of the installation ISO you can specify parameters, e.g. "linux ext4 swapsize=4").
 
= Network for Ceph  =
 
All nodes need access to a separate 10Gb network interface, exclusively used for Ceph. We use network 10.10.10.0/24 for this tutorial.
 
It is highly recommended to use 10Gb for that network to avoid performance problems. Bonding can be used to increase availability.
 
== First node  ==
 
The network setup (ceph private network) from our first node contains:
 
# from /etc/network/interfaces
auto eth2
iface eth2 inet static
  address  10.10.10.1
  netmask  255.255.255.0
 
== Second node  ==
 
The network setup (ceph private network) from our second node contains:
 
# from /etc/network/interfaces
auto eth2
iface eth2 inet static
  address  10.10.10.2
  netmask  255.255.255.0
 
== Third node  ==
 
The network setup (ceph private network) from our third node contains:
 
# from /etc/network/interfaces
auto eth2
iface eth2 inet static
  address  10.10.10.3
  netmask  255.255.255.0
 
= Installation of Ceph packages  =
 
You now need to select 3 nodes and install the Ceph software packages there. We wrote a small command line utility called 'pveceph' which helps you performing this tasks, you can also choose the version of Ceph. Login to all your nodes and execute the following on all:
 
node1# pveceph install -version hammer
 
node2# pveceph install -version hammer
 
node3# pveceph install -version hammer
 
This sets up an 'apt' package repository in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ceph.list and installs the required software. If you want to install older release, just use dumpling or emperor instead of firefly.
 
= Create initial Ceph configuration  =
 
[[Image:Screen-Ceph-Config.png|thumb]] After installation of packages, you need to create an initial Ceph configuration on just one node, based on your private network:
 
node1# pveceph init --network 10.10.10.0/24
 
This creates an initial config at /etc/pve/ceph.conf. That file is automatically distributed to all Proxmox VE nodes by using [http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_Cluster_file_system_%28pmxcfs%29 pmxcfs]. The command also creates a symbolic link from /etc/ceph/ceph.conf pointing to that file. So you can simply run Ceph commands without the need to specify a configuration file.
 
= Creating Ceph Monitors  =
 
[[Image:Screen-Ceph-Monitor.png|thumb]] After that you can create the first Ceph monitor service using:
 
node1# pveceph createmon
 
= Continue with CLI or GUI  =
 
As soon as you have created the first monitor, you can start using the Proxmox GUI (see the video tutorial on [http://youtu.be/ImyRUyMBrwo Managing Ceph Server]) to manage and view your Ceph configuration.
 
Of course, you can continue to use the command line tools (CLI). &nbsp;We continue with the CLI in this wiki article, but you should achieve the same results no matter which way you finish the remaining steps.
 
= Creating more Ceph Monitors  =
 
You should run 3 monitors, one on each node. Create them via GUI or via CLI. So please login to the next node and run:
 
node2# pveceph createmon
 
And execute the same steps on the third node:
 
node3# pveceph createmon
 
'''Note:'''
 
If you add a node where you do not want to run a Ceph monitor, e.g. another node for OSDs, you need to install the Ceph packages with 'pveceph install' and you need to initialize Ceph with 'pveceph init'
 
= Creating Ceph OSDs  =
 
[[Image:Screen-Ceph-Disks.png|thumb]] [[Image:Screen-Ceph-OSD.png|thumb]] First, please be careful when you initialize your OSD disks, because it basically removes all existing data from those disks. So it is important to select the correct device names. The Proxmox VE Ceph GUI displays a list of all disk, together with device names, usage information and serial numbers.
 
Creating OSDs can be done via GUI - self explaining - or via CLI, explained here:
 
Having that said, initializing an OSD can be done with:
 
# pveceph createosd /dev/sd[X]
 
If you want to use a dedicated SSD journal disk:
 
# pveceph createosd /dev/sd[X] -journal_dev dev/sd[X]
 
Example: /dev/sdf as data disk (4TB) and /dev/sdb is the dedicated SSD journal disk
 
# pveceph createosd /dev/sdf -journal_dev /dev/sdb
 
This partitions the disk (data and journal partition), creates filesystems, starts the OSD and add it to the existing crush map. So afterward the OSD is running and fully functional. Please create at least 12 OSDs, distributed among your nodes (4 on each node).
 
It should be noted that this command refuses to initialize disk when it detects existing data. So if you want to overwrite a disk you should remove existing data first. You can do that using:
 
# ceph-disk zap /dev/sd[X]
*In some cases disks that used to be part of a 3ware raid need the following in addition to zap.
 
try this:
<pre>
#To remove partition table and boot sector the following should be sufficient:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/$DISK bs=1024 count=1
</pre>
or
<pre>
DISK=$1
 
if [ "$1" = "" ]; then
echo "Need to supply a  dev name like  sdg . exiting"
exit 1
fi
echo " make sure this is the correct disk "
echo $DISK
echo " you will end up with NO partition table when this procedes .  example:
Disk /dev/$1  doesn't contain a valid partition table
Press enter to procede , or ctl-c to exit "
 
read x
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/$DISK bs=512 count=50000
</pre>
 
You can create OSDs containing both journal and data partitions or you can place the journal on a dedicated SSD. Using a SSD journal disk is highly recommended if you expect good performance.
 
'''Note:'''
 
In order to use a dedicated journal disk (SSD), the disk needs to have a GPT partition table. You can create this with 'gdisk /dev/sd(x)'. If there is no GPT, you cannot select the disk as journal. Currently the journal size is fixed to 5 GB.
 
= Ceph Pools  =
 
[[Image:Screen-Ceph-Pools.png|thumb]] [[Image:Screen-Ceph-Crush.png|thumb]] [[Image:Screen-Ceph-Log.png|thumb]] The standard installation creates some default pools, so you can either use the standard 'rbd' pool, or create your own pools using the GUI.
 
In order to calculate your the  number of placement groups for your pools, you can use:
 
'''Ceph PGs per Pool Calculator'''
 
http://ceph.com/pgcalc/
 
= Ceph Client  =
 
You can then configure Proxmox VE to use such pools to store VM images, just use the GUI ("Add Storage": RBD). A typical entry in the Proxmox VE storage configuration looks like:
 
# from /etc/pve/storage.cfg
rbd: my-ceph-pool
      monhost 10.10.10.1;10.10.10.2;10.10.10.3
      pool rbd
      content images
      username admin
 
You also need to copy the keyring to a predefined location.
:''Note that the file name needs to be storage id + .keyring '' .  '''storage id is the word after this in /etc/pve/storage.cfg : 'rbd:' '''
 
# cd /etc/pve/priv/
# mkdir ceph
# cp /etc/ceph/ceph.client.admin.keyring ceph/my-ceph-pool.keyring
 
= Why do we need a new command line tool (pveceph)?  =
 
For the use in the specific Proxmox VE architecture we use pveceph. Proxmox VE provides a distributed file system ([http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_Cluster_file_system_%28pmxcfs%29 pmxcfs]) to store configuration files.
 
We use this to store the Ceph configuration. The advantage is that all nodes see the same file, and there is no need to copy configuration data around using ssh/scp. The tool can also use additional information from your Proxmox VE setup.
 
Tools like ceph-deploy cannot take advantage of that architecture.
 
= Video Tutorials  =
 
*[http://youtu.be/ImyRUyMBrwo Managing Ceph Server]
 
= Further readings about Ceph  =
 
Ceph comes with plenty of documentation [http://ceph.com/docs/master/ here]. Even better, the dissertation from the creator of Ceph - Sage A. Weil - is also [http://ceph.com/papers/weil-thesis.pdf available]. By reading this you can get a deep insight how it works.
 
*http://ceph.com/
*http://www.inktank.com/, Commercial support services for Ceph
 
[[Category:HOWTO]] [[Category:Installation]] [[Category:Technology]]

Latest revision as of 14:05, 12 January 2024

This article got replaced by our reference documentation's ceph chapter: https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/chapter-pveceph.html

Recommended hardware

Take a look at our Proxmox VE Ceph Benchmark 2018/02 for possible hardware decisions. https://www.proxmox.com/en/downloads/item/proxmox-ve-ceph-benchmark

Further readings about Ceph

Ceph comes with plenty of documentation here. Even better, the dissertation from the creator of Ceph - Sage A. Weil - is also available. By reading that thesis you can get an in-depth insight how Ceph works.

Video Tutorials

Proxmox YouTube channel

You can subscribe to our Proxmox VE Channel on YouTube to get updates about new videos.

Ceph Misc

Upgrading existing Ceph Server

restore lxc from zfs to ceph

if lxc is on zfs with compression the actual disk usage can be far greater then expected. see https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/lxc-restore-fail-to-ceph.32419/#post-161287

One way to know actual disk usage:

restore backup to a ext4 directory and run du -sh , then do restore manually specifying target disk size.

scsi setting

make sure that you use virtio-scsi controller (not LSI), see VM options. I remember some panic when using LSI recently but I did not debug it further as modern OS should use virtio-scsi anyways. https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/restarted-a-node-some-kvms-on-other-nodes-panic.32806

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