[PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup feature withProxmox?
"[SOLTECSIS] Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó"
carles at unlimitedmail.org
Wed Jan 21 10:22:03 CET 2015
Hi,
It would be great if the developers of the Proxmox VE project coment
here something about the possibility of include the Ayufan's patch in
the official release.
Is it possible?
Best regards.
El 20/01/15 a las 18:03, Gilberto Nunes escribió:
> Hi all
>
> I just wanna share that I am using the patch from:
>
> http://ayufan.eu/projects/proxmox-ve-differential-backups/
>
> and want to say that works pretty well...
>
> Consider a try
>
> 2015-01-19 11:11 GMT-02:00 "[SOLTECSIS] Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó"
> <carles at unlimitedmail.org <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>>:
>
> Yes, but it is possible to make a local incremental backup and then
> rsync it to the remote datacenter. It requires a lot of less bandwidth
> than if we have to transfer full backups every day to the remote data
> center.
>
> I understand that Ayufan's patch is not the best option for incremental
> backups but I believe that, if there is no backup inconsistent data
> problem with it, is a good option until exists something better.
>
> What do you thing about it?
>
>
>
>
> El 19/01/15 a las 13:47, Alexandre DERUMIER escribió:
> >>> It is better to really read only the changed block since the last
> >>> backup, it will be possible when the qemu incremental backup is
> >>> commited, but in the meantime I believe that something like de
> Ayufan's
> >>> patch integrated in the Proxmox official release will be great.
> >>>
> >>> What do you thing about it?
> >
> > Another problem with Ayufan's patch, is that to create the diff,
> you also need to read the full backup,
> > to do the diff.
> >
> > And with a remote storage,it can use a lot of bandwith
> >
> >
> > ----- Mail original -----
> > De: "SOLTECSIS" <carles at unlimitedmail.org
> <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>>
> > À: "aderumier" <aderumier at odiso.com <mailto:aderumier at odiso.com>>
> > Cc: "proxmoxve" <pve-user at pve.proxmox.com
> <mailto:pve-user at pve.proxmox.com>>
> > Envoyé: Lundi 19 Janvier 2015 11:40:39
> > Objet: Re: [PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup
> feature withProxmox?
> >
> > Ok, I understand then that it is a problem of backup time (because it
> > reads all blocks), but the resulting incremental its ok, isn't it?
> >
> > It is better to really read only the changed block since the last
> > backup, it will be possible when the qemu incremental backup is
> > commited, but in the meantime I believe that something like de
> Ayufan's
> > patch integrated in the Proxmox official release will be great.
> >
> > What do you thing about it?
> >
> >
> >
> > El 19/01/15 a las 11:22, Alexandre DERUMIER escribió:
> >>>> Please, may you send the link to the thread in wich it is
> explained the
> >>>> reason for which the Ayufan's patch is not suitable?
> >>
> >> I think the main problem is that a full backup is done on qemu
> side (all block are reads),
> >> but it's piped to xdelta to generate the diff file.
> >>
> >>
> >> The coming qemu incremental backup allow to really read only the
> changed block since the last backup.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Mail original -----
> >> De: "SOLTECSIS" <carles at unlimitedmail.org
> <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>>
> >> À: "proxmoxve" <pve-user at pve.proxmox.com
> <mailto:pve-user at pve.proxmox.com>>
> >> Envoyé: Lundi 19 Janvier 2015 11:13:07
> >> Objet: Re: [PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup
> feature withProxmox?
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> Please, may you send the link to the thread in wich it is
> explained the
> >> reason for which the Ayufan's patch is not suitable?
> >>
> >> It seems that the Ayufan's patch integrates well in the Proxmox web
> >> interface and it allows management of differential backs from it.
> >>
> >> We need something like this because we have several customers with
> >> disaster recovery systems in remote data centers and copying full
> >> backups takes lot of bandwidth and time.
> >>
> >> Best regards.
> >>
> >>
> >> El 16/01/15 a las 15:55, Martin Maurer escribió:
> >>>> Steffen Wagner <mail at steffenwagner.com
> <mailto:mail at steffenwagner.com>> hat am 16. Januar 2015 um 14:56
> >>>> geschrieben:
> >>>>
> >>>> I found something for differential backups.. maybe have a look
> >>>>
> >>>> http://ayufan.eu/projects/proxmox-ve-differential-backups/
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Steffen
> >>>
> >>> This is not suitable, if you want to know why please read the
> archive of the
> >>> pve-devel mailing list.
> >>>
> >>> Martin
> >>>
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