[PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup feature withProxmox?
"[SOLTECSIS] Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó"
carles at unlimitedmail.org
Wed Jan 21 11:31:03 CET 2015
Ok, I understand.
Thank you very much for your answer.
I apologize for my insistence :-)
Best regards.
El 21/01/15 a las 10:48, Gilberto Nunes escribió:
> Proxmox staff has yours very reason to do not include this and already
> explaned...
> So, do it for yourself... It's not complicate....
>
> Cheers
>
> 2015-01-21 7:22 GMT-02:00 "[SOLTECSIS] Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó"
> <carles at unlimitedmail.org <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>>:
>
> Hi,
> It would be great if the developers of the Proxmox VE project coment
> here something about the possibility of include the Ayufan's patch in
> the official release.
>
> Is it possible?
>
> Best regards.
>
>
> El 20/01/15 a las 18:03, Gilberto Nunes escribió:
> > Hi all
> >
> > I just wanna share that I am using the patch from:
> >
> > http://ayufan.eu/projects/proxmox-ve-differential-backups/
> >
> > and want to say that works pretty well...
> >
> > Consider a try
> >
> > 2015-01-19 11:11 GMT-02:00 "[SOLTECSIS] Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó"
> > <carles at unlimitedmail.org <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>
> <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>>>:
> >
> > Yes, but it is possible to make a local incremental backup and then
> > rsync it to the remote datacenter. It requires a lot of less bandwidth
> > than if we have to transfer full backups every day to the remote data
> > center.
> >
> > I understand that Ayufan's patch is not the best option for incremental
> > backups but I believe that, if there is no backup inconsistent data
> > problem with it, is a good option until exists something better.
> >
> > What do you thing about it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > El 19/01/15 a las 13:47, Alexandre DERUMIER escribió:
> > >>> It is better to really read only the changed block since the last
> > >>> backup, it will be possible when the qemu incremental backup is
> > >>> commited, but in the meantime I believe that something like de
> > Ayufan's
> > >>> patch integrated in the Proxmox official release will be great.
> > >>>
> > >>> What do you thing about it?
> > >
> > > Another problem with Ayufan's patch, is that to create the diff,
> > you also need to read the full backup,
> > > to do the diff.
> > >
> > > And with a remote storage,it can use a lot of bandwith
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Mail original -----
> > > De: "SOLTECSIS" <carles at unlimitedmail.org <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>
> > <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org
> <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>>>
> > > À: "aderumier" <aderumier at odiso.com
> <mailto:aderumier at odiso.com> <mailto:aderumier at odiso.com
> <mailto:aderumier at odiso.com>>>
> > > Cc: "proxmoxve" <pve-user at pve.proxmox.com
> <mailto:pve-user at pve.proxmox.com>
> > <mailto:pve-user at pve.proxmox.com
> <mailto:pve-user at pve.proxmox.com>>>
> > > Envoyé: Lundi 19 Janvier 2015 11:40:39
> > > Objet: Re: [PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup
> > feature withProxmox?
> > >
> > > Ok, I understand then that it is a problem of backup time (because it
> > > reads all blocks), but the resulting incremental its ok, isn't it?
> > >
> > > It is better to really read only the changed block since the last
> > > backup, it will be possible when the qemu incremental backup is
> > > commited, but in the meantime I believe that something like de
> > Ayufan's
> > > patch integrated in the Proxmox official release will be great.
> > >
> > > What do you thing about it?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > El 19/01/15 a las 11:22, Alexandre DERUMIER escribió:
> > >>>> Please, may you send the link to the thread in wich it is
> > explained the
> > >>>> reason for which the Ayufan's patch is not suitable?
> > >>
> > >> I think the main problem is that a full backup is done on qemu
> > side (all block are reads),
> > >> but it's piped to xdelta to generate the diff file.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The coming qemu incremental backup allow to really read only the
> > changed block since the last backup.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Mail original -----
> > >> De: "SOLTECSIS" <carles at unlimitedmail.org <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>
> > <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org
> <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>>>
> > >> À: "proxmoxve" <pve-user at pve.proxmox.com
> <mailto:pve-user at pve.proxmox.com>
> > <mailto:pve-user at pve.proxmox.com
> <mailto:pve-user at pve.proxmox.com>>>
> > >> Envoyé: Lundi 19 Janvier 2015 11:13:07
> > >> Objet: Re: [PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup
> > feature withProxmox?
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >> Please, may you send the link to the thread in wich it is
> > explained the
> > >> reason for which the Ayufan's patch is not suitable?
> > >>
> > >> It seems that the Ayufan's patch integrates well in the Proxmox web
> > >> interface and it allows management of differential backs from it.
> > >>
> > >> We need something like this because we have several customers with
> > >> disaster recovery systems in remote data centers and copying full
> > >> backups takes lot of bandwidth and time.
> > >>
> > >> Best regards.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> El 16/01/15 a las 15:55, Martin Maurer escribió:
> > >>>> Steffen Wagner <mail at steffenwagner.com <mailto:mail at steffenwagner.com>
> > <mailto:mail at steffenwagner.com
> <mailto:mail at steffenwagner.com>>> hat am 16. Januar 2015 um 14:56
> > >>>> geschrieben:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I found something for differential backups.. maybe have a look
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://ayufan.eu/projects/proxmox-ve-differential-backups/
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>> Steffen
> > >>>
> > >>> This is not suitable, if you want to know why please read the
> > archive of the
> > >>> pve-devel mailing list.
> > >>>
> > >>> Martin
> > >>>
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> Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó
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